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 Post subject: EcoLogic Legal Update
PostPosted: Wed Jun 28, 2006 8:59 pm 
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As you may be aware, all legal matters are now channeled through EcoLogic Partners, Inc. (ELP). The ASA is a 1/5th stakeholder of ELP. Each organization has their area(s) of interest and take the lead in them.

The 5 partners are:
American Motorcyclist Association Dist 37
Off-Road Business Association
California Off-Road Vehicle Association
American Sand Association
San Diego Off-Road Coalition

From time to time, David Hubbard provides us with an update so that we can stay up to speed between the monthly ELP board meetings. Here is the latest update from Dave.


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Dear EcoLogic:

Things continue to be very busy on the pre-litigation and litigation front. Here's a summary:

1. ISDRA Litigation. We obtained a short extension from the Court and are now finalizing the Remedy Stipulation, a draft of which you have seen. I have notified DOJ and CBD that the stipulation, while faithful to our discussions, has one major flaw -- the deliverables described in paragraph 5 (EIS, BO) have no timelines attached. I expect to see a revised draft of the Stipulation later this week.

2. EcoLogic v. County of Riverside. We are working with the Court and County Counsel to streamline this case so that it can be resolved quickly with minimal expense to both parties. We believe this can be done by focusing the litigation on the one key legal issue -- whether the proposed noise ordinance is inconsistent with the Noise Element of the General Plan. We should be coming to a decision on this point within the next couple of weeks. Then we can set a date for the hearing, which will probably be sometime in the late fall 2006.

3. EcoLogic v. State Parks (Coyote Canyon): This case has been relatively dormant over the last few months, owing to a court-requested delay. But things are now heating up again. I am in the process of preparing the brief we need to file opposing State Parks' demurrer to the complaint. (A demurrer is akin to a motion to dismiss). The demurrer is set to be heard the first week of August, and much, if not all, of the case will turn on the court's ruling. If the demurrer is granted, we are out of court and the case goes away. If we the judge denies the demurrer, the case lives on and we will have an opportunity to have the case decided on the merits.

4. EcoLogic v. OHMVR Commission: After a number of months of delay, it appears that all parties now have adequate (meaning non-conflicted) legal counsel and the case can move forward. I have informed lawyers for the Division that we will be dismissing those claims relating to the grants and the evaluative criteria, leaving just the claim challenging the Desert Riparian Policy. This should help streamline the case and keep costs down.

5. NEMO and NECO Litigation: We have now reviewed BLM's response to our request to reopen specific routes and use areas. By all accounts, that response is inadequate. BLM insists on keeping certain routes and areas closed despite no evidence of OHV-related resource damage. I am currently in communication with the BLM lawyer about this and will attempt to obtain from them a more realistic counter-offer. If no settlement can be achieved, this case will likely go back to the Court for a ruling.

6. CBD 60-Day Notice (Possible Litigation Challenging Multiple Biological Opinions): I continue to review and analyze the Biological Opinions identified in CBD's 60-Day Notice. I have finished with most of the important ones, save the WEMO BO, which is 198 pages long. I have started on this one and am taking my time with it because it covers (1) so much Desert tortoise habitat, and (2) so much important OHV use area. When I complete my review, I will be coming to you with a recommendation for future action on this potential piece of litigation.

I have also been spending time on a variety of other issues, including the proposed Wilderness Area bill sponsored by Congressman McKeon, the proposed Baldy Mesa plan, the desert tortoise delisting petition, and the petition to remove the Peirson's milk-vetch from the California list of threatened and endangered species.

As new issues arise, I will inform you of them.

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Thans for the update Vince. Always good to see that something(s) is being done. :D

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Yes, having someone now on OUR side full time is SWEET... :P
Of course, we are still sadly under funded compaired to the Anti-Access crowd... :cry:

He did forget to mention the recent work here:
http://www.americansandassociation.org/phpBB2/viewtopic.php?t=20494

Question, are you an ASA Supporting Member yet??? 8)

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Sounds like you need a few more Dave's. Lot's of irons in the fire.

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Sounds great.This is a great arrangement. I am a member of two of the orgs,guess I should buy a couple more years of memberships from the two orgs so the bills get paid.I love it when they take them to court for us. 8)


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I love it when they take them to court for us
We're doing lots of that. Soon, just the threat of a suit from us will bring results.

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That's great. Hopefully we are catching up to the clout of those like the CBD. Now if we can just get some key people in positions like "planning commissioner." 8)


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This is soooo COOL! :P 8)

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The 5 partners are:
American Motorcyclist Association Dist 37
Off-Road Business Association
California Off-Road Vehicle Association
American Sand Association
San Diego Off-Road Coalition


And A BIG FAT THANK YOU to each and every one of these guys for joining the fight!!!
You will have my money!

Is EcoLogic soliciting for more group participants? Or, are they happy with the current roll?

It's just that I'm surprised that we don't see more on this list. Even some groups that I belong to -or- have considered joining are not on the list :?
When we have an AMA Dist 37 [a group outside of the Dune Kamp] on-board with us, why aren't we seeing more Dune Groups participating like this?

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Where on the list is Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki, Kawi? Are they aware of whats going on or are they too pc (candy ***) to fight for their industries survival? After all the $$$$ that all of us have made them, isn't it time they said thank you?


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Is EcoLogic soliciting for more group participants? Or, are they happy with the current roll?
We're happy with the current line up for now but nothing is chiseled in stone either. See below.

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It's just that I'm surprised that we don't see more on this list. Even some groups that I belong to -or- have considered joining are not on the list Confused
When we have an AMA Dist 37 [a group outside of the Dune Kamp] on-board with us, why aren't we seeing more Dune Groups participating like this?
Most of the issues are not directly dune-related, thus most of the organizations in ELP are not strictly dune oriented. However, some issues tie into sand issues one way or another in the bigger picture and the mix of orgs works very nicely. There's no duplication of effort.

Don't lose sight of the fact that there's a monthly nut that we all have to crack as well. It is a substantial financial commitment few organizations can realistically make.

There is also the reality of having too many chefs in the kitchen - the meetings take hours as it is. That is not to say that all other issues and organizations will be thrown under the bus either. It has been discussed that if need be, individual orgs and their issues will be considered on a case by case basis. Naturally, funding any single campaign becomes an issue. But odds are ELP is already on it - if not sing out.

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dune4d wrote:
Where on the list is Yamaha, Honda, Suzuki, Kawi? Are they aware of whats going on or are they too pc (candy ***) to fight for their industries survival? After all the $$$$ that all of us have made them, isn't it time they said thank you?
Some dollars flow in to some degree but apparently not as much as one would expect. I read an article that said its not in their culture to blatantly go against the culture of their markets. Until we define our culture as seeing the ESA for the poor law that it is, they will continue to behave as if radical environmentalism is a core belief in our society.

Remember too that they have a lot of other businesses - OHVs are a small part of a much larger balance sheet. A green boycott could cost them more than they gain by supporting us.

That said, if someone has the time, I'd like to hear the results of a polite phone call to each company's main office on the subject.

If someone has better information than above, I'd like to hear that too.

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I may be talking to a VP at one of the above listed companies over the 4th. If he's on vacation with his family I will see him and talk to him in person about it.

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"I have informed lawyers for the Division that we will be dismissing those claims relating to the grants and the evaluative criteria, leaving just the claim challenging the Desert Riparian Policy."

Isn't the grant process and evaluative criteria where they spend the most time using our own money against us and ripping us off, and trashing the intended purpose of the commission in the first place?


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I just received this month's issue of Dirt Wheels, in which there was an article about a grant program from Polaris.

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I'll have to go dig thru the industry rag box and read this. Polaris is good people.


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http://www.polarisindustries.com/en-us/ ... rogram.htm

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Vincent J Brunasso wrote:
http://www.polarisindustries.com/en-us/ATV/News/PolarisTRAILSGrantProgram.htm


ASA is not eligible for this grant program:

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Grant applications will be reviewed three times per year -- in April, August and November, with corresponding submission deadlines of March 1, July 1 and October 1. Organizations may apply for two grants per year and all organizations must be 501c3 non-profit organizations


We are a 501c4 non-profit organization.

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all organizations must be 501c3 non-profit organizations
BHenry is correct. Also, C3's are restricted in how much lobbying they can do - that is one reason ASA is a C4 and some other orgs are no longer C3. So I wouldn't guess that Polaris funds many lobby efforts.

http://www.fourmilab.ch/ustax/www/t26-A-1-F-I-501.html

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I think that Polaris must want their grant monies to be a write off, and this is the only reason that they offer only to a 501c3.
Am I right?
If I am, it's a self serving plan that these 'good people' have. Isn't it?

A 501c3 dollar only goes so far, while a 501c4 dollar goes so much farther. :?

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