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Senate panel approves Democratic climate bill

Post by Sandcock » Thu Nov 05, 2009 8:55 am

Our own Barbara Boxer at work :shock:

Source: Rueters
Thu Nov 5, 2009 10:32am EST
By Richard Cowan

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - A key U.S. Senate environment committee approved a Democratic climate change bill on Thursday that would require industry to cut emissions of carbon dioxide and other greenhouse gases 20 percent by 2020 from 2005 levels.

The bill approved by the Environment and Public Works Committee will now become one of several initiatives in the Senate aimed at attacking global warming. But they are unlikely to produce legislation that would be voted on by the full Senate until next year at the earliest.
With Republicans boycotting the environment panel's measure, saying more analysis of the legislation was needed, 10 Democrats approved the bill and one Democrat, Senator Max Baucus, voted against it.

Senator John Kerry, who co-authored the bill with fellow Democrat Barbara Boxer, is leading an effort with some Republicans and the White House to draft a compromise.

Democrats in Congress, working on a major plank of President Barack Obama's agenda, have been anxious to show at least some progress on enacting a domestic climate change bill before December 7, when an international global warming summit convenes in Copenhagen.
While there were scores of amendments to the bill that environment committee members wanted to debate and vote on before approving it, they were unable to because of the Republican boycott.

Under committee rules, at least two Republicans had to be present to debate and vote on changing the bill.

Boxer delayed work on the legislation for two days, saying she was giving Republicans the opportunity to collect more information from EPA officials and to offer their own amendments.
But Republicans did not take her up on the offer and by Thursday, Boxer had lost patience with the delay.

She opened Thursday's work session reading from a letter from John Rowe, Chief Executive of Exelon, one of the country's largest utilities.

Calling the bill written by Boxer and Kerry "an excellent starting point," Rowe wrote, "We urge you as chairman, as well as your colleagues, to take the steps necessary to order the bill reported by the committee so that climate legislation can be considered by the full Senate."
Baucus' vote against the bill reflected the difficulties ahead in crafting a measure that would attract the 60 votes needed for passage by the Senate.

As an influential moderate Democrat, Baucus laid out changes he would seek, including a weaker carbon-reduction target. Other Midwestern and Southern senators from states heavily reliant on coal will seek their own changes, which could upset liberals now supporting the bill.

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Re: Senate panel approves Democratic climate bill

Post by RAD4EVER » Fri Nov 06, 2009 7:49 am

Gee, SC...nothing is voted or passed?
It's just a panel. :roll:

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Re: Senate panel approves Democratic climate bill

Post by Rekd » Fri Nov 06, 2009 8:24 am

RAD4EVER wrote:Gee, SC...nothing is voted or passed?
It's just a panel. :roll:
Ignorance is bliss, eh Rad? :roll:
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Re: Senate panel approves Democratic climate bill

Post by Sandcock » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:15 am

I know its a panel vote, but its the direction we are heading. Ms Boxer is going to push her agenda whether the public is on board with it or not. Its how Congress is approaching everything. There needs to be inclusion of both parties for "EQUAL" represntation of all. AND, please don't go on about the Pubs doing it to the Dems, your momma and my momma taught us that two wrongs don't make a right :wink:
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Re: Senate panel approves Democratic climate bill

Post by Rekd » Fri Nov 06, 2009 9:40 am

Sandcock wrote:I know its a panel vote, but its the direction we are heading. Ms Boxer is going to push her agenda whether the public is on board with it or not. Its how Congress is approaching everything. There needs to be inclusion of both parties for "EQUAL" represntation of all. AND, please don't go on about the Pubs doing it to the Dems, your momma and my momma taught us that two wrongs don't make a right :wink:
Don't waste your breath. Rad is so out of touch with reality that he doesn't care how things get done to his liking, even though some day it will come back to bite him.

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Re: Senate panel approves Democratic climate bill

Post by gelwell » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:49 am

That seems to be the dems use/abuse of the system is to have a panel and approve things without bipartisan interaction. At least under the pubs bipartisan interaction was the rules of engagement. The Dems are not getting it. The revolution has already begun the Governorships in NJ and VA should have been the wake up call. The dems cramming things down our throat has awaken the public. People voted for obama because of change that hasnt happened just banter. I saw right thru bamas banter he offered no concrete answers to anything and still hasnt. The whole thing is a sham. 2010 is going to be a real eye opener. Get it while you can dems nothing last forever.
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Re: Senate panel approves Democratic climate bill

Post by Rekd » Fri Nov 06, 2009 11:57 am

gelwell wrote:People voted for obama because of change that hasnt happened just banter.
Not entirely accurate. We've had lots of changes, and all of it bad.
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Re: Senate panel approves Democratic climate bill

Post by gelwell » Fri Nov 06, 2009 2:03 pm

Rekd wrote:
gelwell wrote:People voted for obama because of change that hasnt happened just banter.
Not entirely accurate. We've had lots of changes, and all of it bad.
I couldnt agree more
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Re: Senate panel approves Democratic climate bill

Post by HSSC » Mon Nov 09, 2009 11:09 pm

RAD4EVER wrote:Gee, SC...nothing is voted or passed?
It's just a panel. :roll:
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Re: Senate panel approves Democratic climate bill

Post by Sandcock » Tue Nov 10, 2009 5:49 am

ain't algore the rich one though...I believe he may be in the billionaires club or pretty darn near it. its amazing how the pols and ex-pols capitalize once they get into office or out of office. me thinks algore wants to be a global prez :shock:
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Re: Senate panel approves Democratic climate bill

Post by Astro » Wed Nov 11, 2009 7:38 am

Just a couple things I want to mention :roll: There's a problem with most climate legislation right now in how credit is given that might even promote deforestation :shock: It's something about you can cut down a forest to plant biofuel crops etc... & not get charged for cutting down the forest :idea: Kind of like getting credit for growing corn for ethanol when you use more fuel & resources to grow & harvest it than you save :? All the carbon credit stuff is a political shell game I just don't know who's cheating who :? :oops: :shock: #-o :P The Good news is Boxer has an opponent in the next election =D> A Woman who used to run HP I think :?: If the new candidate checks out here's your chance to get Boxer out :wink:

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