Thank you. Thatâ€™s been one of my points for a while now, but of course anyone with that opinion must just be from the â€œASA pep squadâ€ & be full of â€œblind hatredâ€.Crowdog wrote: The only "Friends of" organization with the organization and funding to play hard ball is the Friends of Oceano Dunes. And all that it would take to neutralize FoOD is a few of the key folks to get burned out.
Dusty, thank you too. This is something else Iâ€™ve been saying for a long time. But you see there are people in high positions in some orgs that carry so much old baggage, grudges, and personality conflicts from their past they canâ€™t put that aside for the betterment of the OHV cause; even if it costs duners losing their sport area by area. Great idea/concept but be prepared to be called everything but a civilized man by some OHV leaders for saying it.Dusty Rhodes wrote:I would like to see an Umbrella organization consolidate all the Friends of organizations and have a UNITED front to fight back. All of these small organizations fracture the money, the effort, and the clout of the community as a whole. The CBD must salivate at the thought of taking on a little organization. Little money, little membership, little clout, and it shows by all the victories they have attained. Put all that money, time, and effort into one organization and it would be quite formidable.
Right now Iâ€™d argue that some of the â€œfriends ofâ€ organizations are actually doing more harm than good in some aspects. How? Because they actually give the BLM the right to check off their box that says theyâ€™ve â€œpartnered, worked hand-in-hand etcâ€ with the OHV people. In essence, these small orgs are giving the duner stamp of approval on every action (good or bad) the BLM wants to enact. You see, when youâ€™re impotent youâ€™re only option is to â€œbe friends/team-upâ€ with the BLM. That is, if you have no members you have no clout other than maybe a particular leadersâ€™ real or perceived â€œpersonalâ€ clout....a best thatâ€™s a flawed single-point-of-failure setup even with someone whoâ€™s crap-hot at the bargaining table; at worst, itâ€™s someone that thinks theyâ€™re all that when theyâ€™re really just a legend in their own mind yet are out â€œrepresentingâ€ the dune public.
When youâ€™re in that position you have a few of ways to express it:
- Like the President of SM did in that he was publically bemoaning the fact they got steamrolled.
- You can rationalize that losses are actually wins.
- You take any small â€œaccomplishmentâ€ and blow it up to a big deal, even though it may have been just a bone that the BLM threw you.
IMO, you can only have a true partnership/respectful relationship when all those at the table are of about equal status. The small stand-on-our-own organizations are your local garage based streetstock stockcar team thatâ€™s entered in a race against Dale Earnhardt Inc, Roush, and Hendrick Motorsportsâ€™ cars, on a NASCAR track. You think the BLM respects the capability of any of these orgs, yeah right.
If â€œbeing partnersâ€ with the BLM means you get it up the rear end (over and over) then I guess I donâ€™t want to be â€œfriends.â€ If on the other hand you carry a big stick around that they have to respect that will force them to actually â€œwork/compromiseâ€ with you i.e. then being partners/friends is a good thing. The small orgs have no big stick and you bet your bottom dollar the BLM (and enviros) know that.
I think the bigger orgs have finally figured out what it takes to be effective. Teamwork and coalitions are the only hope we have. Thereâ€™s no reason I can think of other than selfish ego driven pig headedness that the small orgs wouldnâ€™t take that concept and run with it.
You canâ€™t be total unconditional buds with the BLM because if push comes to shove theyâ€™ll dump you like a hot potato for the enviro nutsâ€™ demands, and why wouldnâ€™t they? Itâ€™s absolutely indisputable, it just happened again (subject of this thread). The enviros can make life a living hell for them via the courts which costs them big bank. That commands attention/gets action, not "being friends" because that's all you can do.